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Offline Pegasus

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Lean angle and hero blobs
« on: August 19, 2019, 04:20:50 PM »
A quick one for all the peeps out there that like a little wear on the old sliders.
I had a somewhat butt clenching moment last night whilst pootling round a roundabout and as i bent the old girl over, she felt like she had a little slip. My right foot was coming off the pedal (because i obviously thought i had ankles made of carbo-titanium) but before i could slide my foot all the way off, it was already scraping the floor (my foot thankfully, not the bike). Most bikes have little Hero blobs on the underside of the foot pegs to warn you when you're a big enough hero and not to go any further. The multi doesn't. Out of curiosity, has anyone got their knees down on the factory tyres? Can i still trust them?

Just to throw a spanner in my works, I had the boss on the back. Thankfully, she was more concerned about me doing XXXMPH on a tactical overtake than slip and sliding along the tarmac.

Offline Wassers

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Re: Lean angle and hero blobs
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2019, 05:07:32 PM »
I've not got my knee down, so can't answer our question Pegasus... but reading your post made me remember my butt clenching moment when I had a track day at Silverstone and lost the back end for a moment whilst going round Aintree corner a little bit too confidently and quickly for the conditions (it was chucking it down at times).



It was definitely classed as a 'moist' track that day!!  :084:


Sometimes you need a really crooked road to get your head straight

Offline Pegasus

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Re: Lean angle and hero blobs
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2019, 08:38:24 AM »
*Originally Posted by Wassers [+]
I've not got my knee down, so can't answer our question Pegasus... but reading your post made me remember my butt clenching moment when I had a track day at Silverstone and lost the back end for a moment whilst going round Aintree corner a little bit too confidently and quickly for the conditions (it was chucking it down at times).

That looks awesome Wassers. I'd like to do a track day, but i'm a little too nervous to take my own bike on it just yet. As i get a few more miles under my belt, then i may get look closer into it.

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Re: Lean angle and hero blobs
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2019, 03:39:05 PM »
Pegasus,

For starters I would highly recommend renting a bike for the day from Matt at Smallboy (http://www.smallboytrackbikes.co.uk/)  - it's only about 250 for a race prepared Gixxer 600 (other bikes available as well) and its all set up for you on the day including fuel . You start out in a pit garage with appropriate tyres for the conditions already warmed so even if its wet you have a good confidence margin over others on their own bikes with cold road tyres . Mallory is a good track to start - cheap (about 110 with No Limits track days) and easy to learn  - and one of the closest to you . Worst case scenario you completely bin the bike and walk away only losing your safety deposit (600 I think from memory)

It will give you all the confidence you need to get your own bike on track  - personally I will just stick with Matt for an annual track day as its so convenient plus you also have some instant company with the others renting from Matt on the day 


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Re: Lean angle and hero blobs
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2019, 04:13:53 AM »
Ive not had my knee down, but have had the foot pegs touch the floor when been on one
If I had a second brain cell it would be so lonely......

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Re: Lean angle and hero blobs
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2019, 07:59:22 AM »
*Originally Posted by Pegasus [+]
That looks awesome Wassers. I'd like to do a track day, but i'm a little too nervous to take my own bike on it just yet. As i get a few more miles under my belt, then i may get look closer into it.

I  did the Ron Haslam race day at Donnington this summer with a bunch of other friends who had never done a track day.
This format is good as they provide not just brand new Honda CBR 650R bikes, but everything you need .. gloves, helmet, leathers, and instructor.
Excellent day out - couldn't believe how fast we were lapping by the end ... and got my knee down!

https://www.haslamraceschool.com/premier


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Re: Lean angle and hero blobs
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2019, 12:04:37 PM »
Thanks to everyone who has messaged. Renting a bike seems to be a popular way of doing things, and certainly something i will look into more. I think what my ideal solution would be to rent a Mutley and see what it can do on the factory rubber. The aim of the game is to understand the capabilities of the bike itself at factory level. Got to bear in mind though that track asphalt is different to your standard road asphalt, but would really like to explore it's capabilities.
A 600 deposit is a drop in the pond compared to being told about a 2K excess when i took a Panagale V4s out a month of so ago. Having that thought in the back of my head was quickly replaced with adrenaline mind.

*Originally Posted by buzzardbilly [+]
For starters I would highly recommend renting a bike for the day from Matt at Smallboy (http://www.smallboytrackbikes.co.uk/)  - it's only about 250 for a race prepared Gixxer 600 (other bikes available as well) and its all set up for you on the day including fuel. Worst case scenario you completely bin the bike and walk away only losing your safety deposit (600 I think from memory)

BabyD - If that's on the standard scorpion tyres, then that's the reassurance i need. haha. Wonder if it's possible with the panniers on....

*Originally Posted by BabyD [+]
Ive not had my knee down, but have had the foot pegs touch the floor when been on one

Haslam race school sounds ideal with all the more solid equipment.

*Originally Posted by Ian_H [+]
I  did the Ron Haslam race day at Donnington

Cheers all.

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Re: Lean angle and hero blobs
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2019, 07:25:14 PM »
Take a look at page 100 of October's Ride magazine  - the reporter took a Mutley 950S on track at Snetterton - good shot of him knee down still with plenty of air between peg and tarmac .

It's a nice little write up about the all round capability of the MTS as he takes it green laning as well