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  • Offline Pegasus   gb

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    Stock Suspension Set Up
    on: September 04, 2019, 02:39:41 pm
    September 04, 2019, 02:39:41 pm
    Coming from a downhill biking background, I appreciate the importance of correct suspension set up. I have googled all sorts and searched the forums as well as the manual, and still i cannot find the stock suspension set up.
    I've ridden the bike over 1K miles now and feel i would benefit with tweaking the suspension a little. Especially when i have a pillion. She was complaining about feeling sick after a rather bouncy country lane ride home the other night  :007: . So following that I gave a good ten clicks on the preload. I just think there may be a little more i can do, but would like to adjust from factory settings, as i'm unsure to how much the previous rider tweaked it.
    Would anyone know what the factory settings are for the Mutley?

    This is an opportunity to tweak for myself before taking it to the suspension specialists out there which have been mentioned in other threads.
    Sometimes you need a really crooked road to get your head straight

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    Re: Stock Suspension Set Up
    Reply #1 on: September 04, 2019, 05:28:45 pm
    September 04, 2019, 05:28:45 pm
    All standard suspension settings are in the user manual which you should have received with the bike. They are downloadable from Ducati as well, the manuals I mean.

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    Re: Stock Suspension Set Up
    Reply #2 on: September 04, 2019, 05:37:43 pm
    September 04, 2019, 05:37:43 pm
    Hi Pegasus

    The standard settings are in the handbook but I still have them and my adjustments in brackets noted on my phone:

    FRONT
    Preload 8 turns up (-1 turn)
    Compression 8 back (+2 turn)
    Rebound 8 back (+1 turn)

    REAR
    Preload 8 turns up (+14 for 1 up; +18 for 2 up)
    Compression 1.5 turns back (left std)
    Rebound 9 turns back (+1 turn)

    These settings worked a treat for me (12st rider / 10st passenger)

    Hope this helps.

    YoungF


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    Re: Stock Suspension Set Up
    Reply #3 on: September 05, 2019, 12:22:16 pm
    September 05, 2019, 12:22:16 pm
    Thanks YoungF.
    Appreciate the info. Can have a tinker now.
    i did scan over the PDF file of the manual but couldn't find those settings. What page number is it?
    Sometimes you need a really crooked road to get your head straight

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    Re: Stock Suspension Set Up
    Reply #4 on: September 05, 2019, 05:12:45 pm
    September 05, 2019, 05:12:45 pm
    *Originally Posted by Pegasus [+]
    Thanks YoungF.
    Appreciate the info. Can have a tinker now.
    i did scan over the PDF file of the manual but couldn't find those settings. What page number is it?

    Pages 228 - 231 of the pdf downloaded version.

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    Re: Stock Suspension Set Up
    Reply #5 on: September 06, 2019, 10:56:33 am
    September 06, 2019, 10:56:33 am
    The stock pre-load settings are very soft so I'm not surprised your passenger felt sick  :008: I run 12 clicks on the rear and added one turn to the front which transformed the cornering and dive under breaking.
    With more spring tension I've left compression damping pretty much standard but added a couple of clicks rebound front and rear.
    To be honest damping is not something I can feel the difference, but pre-load is definitely worth it  :305:
    Anything more than two wheels is unnecessary.

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    Re: Stock Suspension Set Up
    Reply #6 on: September 06, 2019, 12:35:00 pm
    September 06, 2019, 12:35:00 pm
    The fronts have progressive springs too - I have 12 clicks of front preload (for a chap weighing 100Kg geared up).  Unless you really know what you are doing, I would strongly suggest getting a suspension specialist to set up the Bike for you and how you like to use it.
    Made a big difference, although you can't dial out a progressive spring with tons of pre-load....I've got used to bit of fork dive as it does seem to be more comfortable on rough roads when I am not pressing on. Hey ho... :002:

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    Re: Stock Suspension Set Up
    Reply #7 on: September 08, 2019, 09:03:06 am
    September 08, 2019, 09:03:06 am
    I went a different route to reduce the dive, I decreased pre-load to reduce travel and increased compression and rebound damping. This had the added benefit of speeding up the steering to help improve slow speed counter steering.

    I think the rear spring is a bit too soft, I was only using the top third of preload and maxed it out two up with luggage.

    I have found the 950S is very similar but the sky hook gives it an additional dynamic element that flatters it.

    YoungF


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    Re: Stock Suspension Set Up
    Reply #8 on: September 08, 2019, 09:55:27 pm
    September 08, 2019, 09:55:27 pm
    I'm running 36 clicks of rear preload solo, and between 44 clicks (wife xxKg) to 50 clicks (son 90Kg) two up.  I leave the compression at 1.25 and rebound at 6 clicks out solo, winding in the rebound one or two clicks when two up.  Seems to work OK, but I will take it to my suspension specialist in due course for a full setup, and if necessary I'll have it re-sprung for my weight/use.  Do other folks think the rear could be under-sprung?

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    Re: Stock Suspension Set Up
    Reply #9 on: September 11, 2019, 11:14:12 am
    September 11, 2019, 11:14:12 am
    *Originally Posted by YoungF [+]
    I went a different route to reduce the dive, I decreased pre-load to reduce travel and increased compression and rebound damping. This had the added benefit of speeding up the steering to help improve slow speed counter steering.

    YoungF
    I'm afraid I don't understand. Decreasing pre-load does not reduce travel, it increases travel because the springs are effectively softer. It also increases the length of the forks because the springs are longer, which will tend to reduce steering turn in. Adjusting compression and rebound will not really affect dive unless you hit the brakes like an emergency stop, and then only for a few seconds  :086:
    Last Edit: September 11, 2019, 11:15:55 am by Conman
    Anything more than two wheels is unnecessary.