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  • Offline flyfifer   scotland

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    Design for the sake of design ?
    on: July 16, 2022, 08:33:19 pm
    July 16, 2022, 08:33:19 pm
    I have done 3k miles or so on my V2 and was cleaning the chain following a 700mile trip.
    So to complete the job I unscrewed the two screws to remove the front sprocket cover.
    The cover itself seems amazingly complex.
    It's as if someone designed the sprocket rear surround and then someone else had to design something to fit it --- rather than find the simplest way to do the job.

    That seems to occur all over the bike leading to some beautiful engineering but definitely not the Japanese way !!

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    Re: Design for the sake of design ?
    Reply #1 on: July 19, 2022, 09:41:55 pm
    July 19, 2022, 09:41:55 pm
    Too funny, I was cleaning the chain yesterday. Went to do the front sprocket, took the 2 bolts out and for the life of me I couldn't get the cover off. I couldn't get the tab out and didn't want to force it. I cleaned it with cover just hanging there.

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    Re: Design for the sake of design ?
    Reply #2 on: August 01, 2022, 11:29:31 am
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    In the same vein.

    I have given up on trying to fit my Denali Sound Bomb horn, it is just too big , so --- I was looking at the horn mounting with a view to fitting a mini sound bomb.

    Ducati have done it again. The horn mounting "system" is incredibly complicated. For sure the horn bracket will not move from road vibration, or whatever --- but it is amazingly complex.
    Once again it looks like somebody designed one half and somebody another !

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    Re: Design for the sake of design ?
    Reply #3 on: August 01, 2022, 02:36:18 pm
    August 01, 2022, 02:36:18 pm
    Well there are less over engineered options:

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    Re: Design for the sake of design ?
    Reply #4 on: August 13, 2022, 03:07:13 pm
    August 13, 2022, 03:07:13 pm
    They have done it again !
    It has been noted on a.n.other thread that the footpeg rubbers sometimes escape.
    Well, washing the bike today I noticed the RHS riders footrest rubber had gone (it was there when I washed it last week!).
    I had a vague memory of reading that pillion and rider footpeg rubbers were different - so checked the LHS and both rider and pillion peg rubbers appear to be the same.
    But the kicker is The LHS and RHS rubbers are not interchangeable.
    The rubbers have "Ducati" moulded into them - so the word would face the "wrong" way on the other side.

    To ensure that you do not commit the heinous crime of having Ducati facing the wrong way --- the footpegs have cut outs that mate with the rubbers --- so they can only go in one side !

    The feature complies perfectly with the Japanese Poka-yoke technique of mistake prevention - things can only be assembled one way. Pity Ducati chose a cosmetic item to practice on !

    P.S. I think the V2 is fantastic (3,600 miles in) and better than the Tracer GT and Tiger 800 I had immediately prior to my V2 but some details are annoying.

    And why are the rubbers prone to coming out - see other thread on here.
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